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Devian 666
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.11 02:56:00 -
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My favourite part of the story is how one of the guys who discovered it petitioned CCP, he was promptly thanked and the petition closed. Four years later he was banned. Nice work there.
Any bugs I've reported in the specified format have been sent back to me for "not being the standardised format".
Might be time for CCP to read unique petitions and bug reports more closely before ignoring them.
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Devian 666
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:56:00 -
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In my past experience of trying to get CCP to fix exploits the process is as follows.
* petition
* get cookie cutter response
* start thread to lobby the situation and petition including details and links
* get cookie cutter response
* ask for escalation because the gm didn't read the petition
* submit bug reports with full details
* have bug report sent back because it wasn't in the correct format (even though it was)
None of what has happend is of any surprise after my experiences. It also doesn't surprise me that both Eris and Kieron both posted in a 2005 thread discussing this issue.
Quality Assurance isn't about ignoring problems. Maybe CCP should review ISO 9001 QA standard and see what the sort of procedures that would help avoid systematic blunders.
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Devian 666
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Ranger 1
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It also doesn't surprise me that both Eris and Kieron both posted in a 2005 thread discussing this issue.
Frankly, I don't see anything in that thread discussing this issue at all. I see a reference to an exploit that the poster's corp suffered from and petitioned. I must have missed the reference to free moon minerals and what a burden they are.
An issue that Maltroc said he couldn't discuss as it would get the thread locked. Posting exploit details publically would be pretty stupid.
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Devian 666
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
And this proves your point how?
How does your trolling contribute to this thread?
The issue I have raised is that CCP go to great lengths to ignore any reports of problems, and don't put in the effort to understand them. If they had this issue would not have gone on for 4 years.
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Devian 666
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Devian 666 on 12/12/2008 01:22:21
Originally by: Ranger 1
I edited something into that post as an after thought that may make you reconsider. Truth to tell, I'm not the troll here.
In fact, let me put that edit here for you.
Edit: If you look at his post closely, you will see that he quotes statement a dev made about CCP's reimbursement policy for losses. Please tell me why he would quote that if the petition he mentions is about free moon minerals. It makes absolutely no sense.
This is a classic example of "If you throw enough crap on the floor, someone will fall for it".
I think you're trying to read a bit too much into my post. Reread what I wrote in that sentance.
While the 2005 thread is about CCP handling petitions poorly. Maltroc did say that he emailed Kieron about the exploit as the petitions he'd filed had been ignored or misunderstood by the GM who dealt with it.
There are two people that have publically stated that they reported the exploit. It makes me wonder how many people reported the exploit and were ignored.
I'm only pointing out that the QA on bug testing, reporting and petitions needs to be improved.
You seem to be focused on some conspiracy involving CCP which has nothing to do with my post.
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Devian 666
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
And no, taking the word of people that got banned for using this exploit isn't good enough to qualify as "evidence", not by a long shot.
I related my experiences of reporting exploits in the past and the fact that I have had to lobby in threads to make CCP fix the exploits. What you are really saying is that my "evidence" does not qualify either.
Do go on brown nosing CCP.
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Devian 666
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.12 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Scoop de'Woop
Originally by: Etho Demerzel
**snip** Lol, "CCP has it under control". Are you sure you are not a CCP employee? Because to say such a thing after CCP story of having things under control you need to be either utterlly stupid or have yours on the line...**snip**
Oh goodness no! Someone has a different view than you? Git 'im, call 'im a damn CCP employee!
Two wrongs don't make a right and if everyone would chill out we might not have a 46 page (and growing thread) of everyone pointing fingers.
It's all your fault.
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